Please, in everything you do, remember to pray for the regularisation of the Society of St Pius X!
2 comments:
Anonymous
said...
Saturday, May 19, 2012 SSPX ENDORSES VATICAN COUNCIL II WHICH SAYS BUDDHISTS, MUSLIMS, JEWS NEED TO CONVERT FOR SALVATION: MEDIA MISINFORMED
Therefore, all ( Buddhists, Jews, Muslisms) must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him (for salvation) by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door.-Ad Gentes 7,Vatican Council II (emphasis added)
Jewish Left media are welcoming Cardinal Kurt Koch’s ADL-approved talk at the Angelicum University in Rome on May 16. The cardinal’s talk was organised by a rabbi it seems to get the pro-Israel message out before a decision is taken on the SSPX (Society of St.Pius X).
At this ‘interfaith’ meeting of liberals no one commented on Vatican Council II text which indicates Jews need to convert (AG 7) and that Catholics are the new people of God (NA 4). They are the Chosen People now.
Vatican Council II (AG 7) says outside the Church there is no salvation and it agrees with the thrice defined dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus-but this will not be reported.
Imagine the genuine panic if Bishop Richard Williamson of the SSPX says he rejects Vatican Council II (Koch version), accepts Ad Gentes 7 and knows that Lumen Gentium 16 is not an explicit exception of AG 7 or the dogma outside the church no salvation. So many years of false propaganda and liberal ideology will collapse.
Catholics will know the truth.
What the media attribute to the SSPX and a ‘sect’ they will realize is the mainstream, official teaching of the Catholic Church.
So when the media reports that there are doctrinal differences between the SSPX and the Vatican it is amusing. The SSPX can cite text from Vatican Council II, if they want to. Koch cannot.
Nostra Aetate does not state anywhere that Jews do not have to convert for salvation or that Jews are saved in general in their religion or that Judaism is the ordinary means of salvation.
Cardinal Kurt Koch would find no text in the Council to support his claim at the Angelicum that Jews do not have to convert ‘in the present time’.
At the Angelicum Koch was dis regarding Vatican Council II (AG /), the Bible (John 3:5, Mk. 16:16 etc), the Nicene Creed (‘I believe in one baptism’), Dominus Iesus 20, the Catechism of the Catholic Church 845,846) etc.
When liberals meet in ‘interfaith’ one cannot expect anyone from the Angelicum to stand up and correct them. These lies are taught also by the professors there and the students have learnt to accept it.-Lionel Andrades
ARCHBISHOP MARCEL LEFEBVRE ACKNOWLEDGED INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE AND IMPLICIT DESIRE BUT DID NOT SAY THAT THEY WERE EXCEPTIONS TO THE DOGMA: IT IS THE SSPX BISHOPS AND PRIESTS WHO ASSUME IT IS
In two quotations on this subject Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre the founder of the Society of St.Pius X has said ‘I repeat, it is possible for someone to be saved in these religions, but they are saved by the Church, and so the formulation is true: Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus. This must be preached.” [Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, Against the Heresies, pp. 217-218] Elsewhere he has said that there could be people in other religions saved with implicit desire.
He has not said that these cases are known to us and so they are explicit exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
It is the SSPX bishops and priests who assume that they are. They assume that implicit desire and being saved in invincible ignorance are explicitly known in the present time.
The Archbishop did not say this.
If only the SSPX bishops could see it!
1. Implicit desire etc is not an exception to the literal interpretation of the dogma according to Fr.Leonard Feeney.
2. The Archbishop did not say it was.
3. If the SSPX bishops can realize this then LG 16 is not an exception to the literal ‘formulation’ of extra ecclesiam nulla salus which ‘must be preached’.
4. Then Vatican Council II (AG 7) supports their position on ecumenism and other religions.
5. Then can tell their Jewish critics that : “We accept Vatican Council II and it says Jews need to convert for salvation while invincible ignorance and a good conscience (LG 16) are not explicit exceptions to the dogma or AG 7.
'So if you say before entering the Catholic Church we should accept Vatican Council II we accept the Council knowing that invincible ignorance etc are not known to us. We reject your interpretation of Vatican Council in which you irrationally assume that invincible ignorance etc are explicit and known to us in the present time and so they are an exception to the defined dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and also to Vatican Council (AG 7) and are position on ecumenism and other religions.' -Lionel Andrades
2 comments:
Saturday, May 19, 2012
SSPX ENDORSES VATICAN COUNCIL II WHICH SAYS BUDDHISTS, MUSLIMS, JEWS NEED TO CONVERT FOR SALVATION: MEDIA MISINFORMED
Therefore, all ( Buddhists, Jews, Muslisms) must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him (for salvation) by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door.-Ad Gentes 7,Vatican Council II (emphasis added)
Jewish Left media are welcoming Cardinal Kurt Koch’s ADL-approved talk at the Angelicum University in Rome on May 16. The cardinal’s talk was organised by a rabbi it seems to get the pro-Israel message out before a decision is taken on the SSPX (Society of St.Pius X).
At this ‘interfaith’ meeting of liberals no one commented on Vatican Council II text which indicates Jews need to convert (AG 7) and that Catholics are the new people of God (NA 4). They are the Chosen People now.
Vatican Council II (AG 7) says outside the Church there is no salvation and it agrees with the thrice defined dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus-but this will not be reported.
Imagine the genuine panic if Bishop Richard Williamson of the SSPX says he rejects Vatican Council II (Koch version), accepts Ad Gentes 7 and knows that Lumen Gentium 16 is not an explicit exception of AG 7 or the dogma outside the church no salvation. So many years of false propaganda and liberal ideology will collapse.
Catholics will know the truth.
What the media attribute to the SSPX and a ‘sect’ they will realize is the mainstream, official teaching of the Catholic Church.
So when the media reports that there are doctrinal differences between the SSPX and the Vatican it is amusing. The SSPX can cite text from Vatican Council II, if they want to. Koch cannot.
Nostra Aetate does not state anywhere that Jews do not have to convert for salvation or that Jews are saved in general in their religion or that Judaism is the ordinary means of salvation.
Cardinal Kurt Koch would find no text in the Council to support his claim at the Angelicum that Jews do not have to convert ‘in the present time’.
At the Angelicum Koch was dis regarding Vatican Council II (AG /), the Bible (John 3:5, Mk. 16:16 etc), the Nicene Creed (‘I believe in one baptism’), Dominus Iesus 20, the Catechism of the Catholic Church 845,846) etc.
When liberals meet in ‘interfaith’ one cannot expect anyone from the Angelicum to stand up and correct them. These lies are taught also by the professors there and the students have learnt to accept it.-Lionel Andrades
ARCHBISHOP MARCEL LEFEBVRE ACKNOWLEDGED INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE AND IMPLICIT DESIRE BUT DID NOT SAY THAT THEY WERE EXCEPTIONS TO THE DOGMA: IT IS THE SSPX BISHOPS AND PRIESTS WHO ASSUME IT IS
In two quotations on this subject Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre the founder of the Society of St.Pius X has said ‘I repeat, it is possible for someone to be saved in these religions, but they are saved by the Church, and so the formulation is true: Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus. This must be preached.” [Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, Against the Heresies, pp. 217-218] Elsewhere he has said that there could be people in other religions saved with implicit desire.
He has not said that these cases are known to us and so they are explicit exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
It is the SSPX bishops and priests who assume that they are. They assume that implicit desire and being saved in invincible ignorance are explicitly known in the present time.
The Archbishop did not say this.
If only the SSPX bishops could see it!
1. Implicit desire etc is not an exception to the literal interpretation of the dogma according to Fr.Leonard Feeney.
2. The Archbishop did not say it was.
3. If the SSPX bishops can realize this then LG 16 is not an exception to the literal ‘formulation’ of extra ecclesiam nulla salus which ‘must be preached’.
4. Then Vatican Council II (AG 7) supports their position on ecumenism and other religions.
5. Then can tell their Jewish critics that :
“We accept Vatican Council II and it says Jews need to convert for salvation while invincible ignorance and a good conscience (LG 16) are not explicit exceptions to the dogma or AG 7.
'So if you say before entering the Catholic Church we should accept Vatican Council II we accept the Council knowing that invincible ignorance etc are not known to us. We reject your interpretation of Vatican Council in which you irrationally assume that invincible ignorance etc are explicit and known to us in the present time and so they are an exception to the defined dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and also to Vatican Council (AG 7) and are position on ecumenism and other religions.'
-Lionel Andrades
Post a Comment